Topic: SOUND DEVICES 7-SERIES RECORDER UPDATE

[John R]

Laptops just don't seem feasible to stealth with or run lowpro fob...

but you can use them for much more than taping.

it's smaller than a v3.  if it was just mics>722, you'd probably be ok.

jr

agreed, but with the size of this box, I dont see it as something I am planning on crotching anytime soon either....

[Tim]

I don't really stealth but running fob in a mountainsmith pack with a laptop doesn't seem like fun... though I know people who do it.

[nickgregory]

true it is smaller, but there are not many times you are going to see a V3 in the field either for true stealthing, where you have to sneak gear in, on the body and pass through wands...

who knows though, this could be the greatest invention ever...either way though it is a good thing, because hopefully it will push other manufacturers down the path of development....competition is always healthy...

[Flarnet]

Wow that is a lot more expensive than I had anticipated. With the relatively warm reception of the Fostex FP-2 I was more or less sure that the price would be LOWER, not higher than the previously announced $2000.

The playing field, for me at least, is now wide open again. Bring on the Fusion, the Sony and the Tascam. I hope there is word at NAB.

[wboswell]

SS removed its "modified" offerings.  Wonder what came up?

[BobW]

Laptops just don't seem feasible to stealth with or run lowpro fob...

but you can use them for much more than taping.

agreed, but with the size of this box, I dont see it as something I am planning on crotching anytime soon either....

sharp edges, too

[nickgregory]

bubble wrap

[Marc Nutter]

SS removed its "modified" offerings.  Wonder what came up?

Hi All,

The modified offerings are back up in full detail.

We also started the Sound Devices FAQ to address a number of questions that have been discussed lately.

www.sonicsense.com/7seriesFAQ.htm

There are a few cool surprises on there too! : )

Marc

[Sean Gallemore]

WWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

1.5 hours on a low RPM Hard drive.  Thata baby!

[wboswell]

24-bit/48kHz recording requires .5gb per hour/per channel.
24-bit/96kHz recording requires 1gb per hour/per channel
24-bit/192kHz recording requires 2gb per hour/per channel

An 80-gb hard drive in a 722 could store 20 hours of Stereo 24-192kHz audio.
An 60-gb hard drive in a 722 could store 15 hours of Stereo 24-192kHz audio.
An 40-gb hard drive in a 722 could store 20 hours of Stereo 24-192kHz audio.
The stock 20-gb hard drive in a 722 can store 20 hours of Stereo 24-192kHz audio
For a 744t, these times must be cut in half when utilizing all four tracks.

I believe the above (in bold) is an error and should read that the stock 20g HD only get 10 hours of stereo 192/24.

Also, since when does this thing record at 192kHz?  The Sound Devices site only mentions 96k

Couple of thoughts here...

Pro:
Big pro for the 744 is the delay feature.  To me, this means that you can do board aud matrixes on the fly with relative ease given a basic understanding of sound and physics.  (Nevermind the fact that you could buy a mackie 1202vlz and a digital delay device and save over a grand for mixes)

Preamp is comparable to a grace pre.

Con:
.5 stepped increments producing "artifacts" on line level inputs fucking blows.  This makes fixed gain pres and soundboard sources a tough scenario to pull off.

Did I mention the price came in high?

[Lee]

Once you get sick of bitching about it, Bos, you can loan it to me

[Marc Nutter]

24-bit/48kHz recording requires .5gb per hour/per channel.
24-bit/96kHz recording requires 1gb per hour/per channel
24-bit/192kHz recording requires 2gb per hour/per channel

An 80-gb hard drive in a 722 could store 20 hours of Stereo 24-192kHz audio.
An 60-gb hard drive in a 722 could store 15 hours of Stereo 24-192kHz audio.
An 40-gb hard drive in a 722 could store 20 hours of Stereo 24-192kHz audio.
The stock 20-gb hard drive in a 722 can store 20 hours of Stereo 24-192kHz audio
For a 744t, these times must be cut in half when utilizing all four tracks.

I believe the above (in bold) is an error and should read that the stock 20g HD only get 10 hours of stereo 192/24.
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A couple of mathmatical fuckups there (not me and William); it should be 10 hours on 40gb at 2-channel 24/192 and 5 hours on 20gb 2-channel 24/192. The corrections are made.

Marc

[creekfreak]

24-bit/48kHz recording requires .5gb per hour/per channel.
24-bit/96kHz recording requires 1gb per hour/per channel
24-bit/192kHz recording requires 2gb per hour/per channel

An 80-gb hard drive in a 722 could store 20 hours of Stereo 24-192kHz audio.
An 60-gb hard drive in a 722 could store 15 hours of Stereo 24-192kHz audio.
An 40-gb hard drive in a 722 could store 20 hours of Stereo 24-192kHz audio.
The stock 20-gb hard drive in a 722 can store 20 hours of Stereo 24-192kHz audio
For a 744t, these times must be cut in half when utilizing all four tracks.

I believe the above (in bold) is an error and should read that the stock 20g HD only get 10 hours of stereo 192/24.

Also, since when does this thing record at 192kHz?  The Sound Devices site only mentions 96k

Couple of thoughts here...

Pro:
Big pro for the 744 is the delay feature.  To me, this means that you can do board aud matrixes on the fly with relative ease given a basic understanding of sound and physics.  (Nevermind the fact that you could buy a mackie 1202vlz and a digital delay device and save over a grand for mixes)

Preamp is comparable to a grace pre.

Con:
.5 stepped increments producing "artifacts" on line level inputs fucking blows.  This makes fixed gain pres and soundboard sources a tough scenario to pull off.

Did I mention the price came in high?

my guess on the 24/96 is that the internal A/D in it can do up to 24/96, but if you are passing a signal from an outboard a/d it can do up to 24/192

[Marc Nutter]

my guess on the 24/96 is that the internal A/D in it can do up to 24/96, but if you are passing a signal from an outboard a/d it can do up to 24/192

SD is indicating that they 7-Series will do 192 on their own.
The unsolved question, as I see it, is whether the HD can support 4-tracks of 192, and if so, what speed of HD is necessary.  I have these questions into them now.

Marc

[Brian Skalinder]

Preamp is comparable to a grace pre.

Curious how you came to this conclusion without actually hearing one?  Just based on specs, or...hmmmm, maybe you've heard one?  Inquiring minds want to know!