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Re: edirol/roland r-44 (part five)
« Reply #165 on: December 17, 2013, 10:05:29 AM »
I like 32GB cards.  Faster is nice for x-fer speed, but doesn't matter for recording IME.
I have a number of Transcends and Kensingtons, all of which have worked well.

The R-44 isn't particularly picky about cards and doesn't need special formatting, file stuctures, or system files on the card.

I do put an entire day on a card at fests, using a fresh card for each day.  I've never had a problem doing that, and it makes management easy, but I keep a spare card in the bag, just in case.
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Re: edirol/roland r-44 (part five)
« Reply #166 on: December 17, 2013, 11:46:49 AM »
I've run class 2 cards with no problems (@ 2X stereo). Other than one card claiming it was full when it wasn't, I have had no card issues with the R-44.
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Re: edirol/roland r-44 (part five)
« Reply #167 on: December 17, 2013, 01:07:49 PM »
Well make sure you're getting a genuine card (i.e., buy it direct from an authorized retailer).  At least half of what's out there (of any sort of card) is counterfeit. 

I don't think the class is all that important either as long as its not an ancient or phony card.

This.  As long as you're using a reputable, genuine SD card, I imagine you won't have a problem.  I honestly didn't realize the counterfeit rates are that high but what do I know?  From my own experience and anecdotal evidence from others, the R-44 can successfully use just about any good card you throw at it.  Awesome deck.

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Re: edirol/roland r-44 (part five)
« Reply #168 on: December 17, 2013, 04:34:21 PM »
class 10

Any in particular? Or does any class 10 do the job in the R-44 regardless of size?

Had some class 4 cards that gave me the slow memory error, and had gaps in the recording.

Ditched them for Sandisk class 10's and never had another problem.

Yes, YMMV, but 'your mileage will increase' with class 10 cards, and they are cheap nowadays.
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Re: edirol/roland r-44 (part five)
« Reply #169 on: December 17, 2013, 04:53:34 PM »
Thank you kindly, folks.

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Re: edirol/roland r-44 (part five)
« Reply #170 on: December 17, 2013, 05:25:28 PM »
Oh while not saying it is certain to cause a problem the usual caveats apply:

Format the cards you're using in the unit.
Don't delete files from the cards elsewhere and reuse without first formatting them in the unit. 

As noted above it's quite tolerant but those two things may have caused issues for others in the past.  I once accidentally used one of my R-05 formatted cards in the R-44 without formatting and it was fine but it caused a bit of heartburn when I put the recording in the PC and noticed what I'd done...   
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Re: edirol/roland r-44 (part five)
« Reply #171 on: December 17, 2013, 09:36:42 PM »
Yeah, I know the drill. I also have a 722 and an M-10 and I always format in the recorders.

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Re: edirol/roland r-44 (part five)
« Reply #172 on: December 18, 2013, 08:59:20 AM »
class 10

Any in particular? Or does any class 10 do the job in the R-44 regardless of size?

Had some class 4 cards that gave me the slow memory error, and had gaps in the recording.

Ditched them for Sandisk class 10's and never had another problem.

Yes, YMMV, but 'your mileage will increase' with class 10 cards, and they are cheap nowadays.

And there ya go! You are so right, cards are cheap now. Might as well get good ones.
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Re: edirol/roland r-44 (part five)
« Reply #173 on: December 30, 2013, 09:37:17 PM »
So I can be lazy and not have to search...

What is the right power setting for plugging in a DVD battery to use as the primary power source and leaving the AAs in as your backup source?
Is it 9v?

I think that's right...

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Re: edirol/roland r-44 (part five)
« Reply #174 on: December 31, 2013, 12:31:56 AM »
So I can be lazy and not have to search...

What is the right power setting for plugging in a DVD battery to use as the primary power source and leaving the AAs in as your backup source?
Is it 9v?

I think that's right...

Most folks use 9V DC but there is a fairly wide range it can take. What it can't take is the wrong polarity. Be ABSOLUTELY sure you have the polarity right or you will kill the external power port.
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Re: edirol/roland r-44 (part five)
« Reply #175 on: December 31, 2013, 01:09:19 AM »
Thanks!
I have myself a brand new gak cable just for the job.

On my mr1, you could feed it more than 9v, but I wasn't sure about the r44 and needed to be sure. I'm going to have to set it and forget it for 5 hours tomorrow so I was just checking expert opinions!

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Re: edirol/roland r-44 (part five)
« Reply #176 on: December 31, 2013, 12:46:59 PM »
It runs well on 9V from an external supply.

So I can be lazy and not have to search...

What is the right power setting for plugging in a DVD battery to use as the primary power source and leaving the AAs in as your backup source?
Is it 9v?

I think that's right...

If you mean the external battery voltage cutoff setting on the R44's menu, most users including myself set that to External (or AC or whatever the setting is labeled for an external adapter) and then use the built-in meter on the DVD battery itself to monitor state of charge instead of the battery meter on the R44 display.  The R44 will switch to the internal AA's if the external is unplugged or dies and at that point the icon on the R44 display will switch from a little electrical plug to the battery meter bars.
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Re: edirol/roland r-44 (part five)
« Reply #177 on: December 31, 2013, 05:16:46 PM »
I can't check now, but iirc, isn't it set to something lower..? Like 9v if running a 12v battery..? I remember some deal where when I initially set it intuitively (which would have been accurate to math the battery rating), I got warning messages and a shut down (I think, 'cos I didn't have aa batts in) because as soon as the voltage dips below what you set it at, the warnings start. The setting, again, iirc, is to set a level below which the warning pops, NOT to set it to accept a certain amount of power...
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Re: edirol/roland r-44 (part five)
« Reply #178 on: December 31, 2013, 09:01:15 PM »
Thanks!
I have myself a brand new gak cable just for the job.

On my mr1, you could feed it more than 9v, but I wasn't sure about the r44 and needed to be sure. I'm going to have to set it and forget it for 5 hours tomorrow so I was just checking expert opinions!

jb

the R-44 also works well if powered with 12v.  9v or 12v, your choice.  both work without issue.

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Re: edirol/roland r-44 (part five)
« Reply #179 on: December 31, 2013, 10:53:49 PM »
Thanks!
I have myself a brand new gak cable just for the job.

On my mr1, you could feed it more than 9v, but I wasn't sure about the r44 and needed to be sure. I'm going to have to set it and forget it for 5 hours tomorrow so I was just checking expert opinions!

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the R-44 also works well if powered with 12v.  9v or 12v, your choice.  both work without issue.

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