Topic: New M-Audio Recorder

[Todd R]

<GRACE FLUFF ON>...maybe they should take a page from Grace....how many times you heard of a bad bug with their equipment, maybe short of a batter light blinking when it shouldn't, and that was purely a calibration problem...easily fixed.

The first 35 were shipped out with a DC offset problem...

Good lord, do we really need one more thread with the ongoing 722 vs V3 war?     This has gotten way old.

[dmonterisi]

Chris Imburgia (aka Junior aka Focker) is currently running some sort of Ipaq setup.  I believe he can reliably record up to 24/88.2 but cannot record 24/96 without errors.  this is next to useless for spreading the files because apparently flac cannot deal with 88.2 khz files so they have to be resampled to be spread around.

[scb]

<GRACE FLUFF ON>...maybe they should take a page from Grace....how many times you heard of a bad bug with their equipment, maybe short of a batter light blinking when it shouldn't, and that was purely a calibration problem...easily fixed.

The first 35 were shipped out with a DC offset problem...

Good lord, do we really need one more thread with the ongoing 722 vs V3 war?     This has gotten way old.

i don't hate the v3 at all.  i still own one and like it a lot.  i just also happen to like the 722 a lot

sue me!

[Tim]

A requirement for any approach, including the Flash Tracker, is a great analog/AD section.

why?

[nickgregory]

Anyone have any idea when the feature set of the Flash Tracker will be CONFIRMED?

or the price

[Todd R]

A requirement for any approach, including the Flash Tracker, is a great analog/AD section.

why?

Yep, I'm with Tim here.  I'll keep beating my drum -- I want a 24-bit D8 replacement using solid state or HD.  The D8 did not have a great analog/AD section by any means.  It was used for lower end recordings as a standalone, a patch deck, and a digital input device from people using high end pres and A/Ds.  And because of this, it had a very low price, all things considered.  Start getting into a great analog/AD section, and you start getting pricing like a PortaDAT or a 722.  The JB3 has a pretty crappy analog/AD section, and I've used it happily for 2 1/2 years.

[MattD]

Is the Sound Devices 722/744 really anything more than a very well packaged Linux computer with a very good audio section and LCD?

Based on what I can tell about the unit, the "OS" is written in assembly.

[Tim]

gotcha

[silentmark]

Craig T runs this with an external hard drive at 24 bit and has no problems as far as I know ...

Maybe Craig will chime in with his experiences.  But from what I remember, he is now able to run 24/48 reliably, but can't do 24/96 reliably.  And from what he said, this took a lot of testing and configuring and time and new recording s/w, etc, etc, to get to work.  Maybe the deal is that now the PDAudio works like a charm right out of the box and it was only the initial releases and initial recording s/w that had problems.  But whatever, I've long ago soured on the PDAudio and to me it just is not a D8 replacement, it's laptop recording on a smaller scale.  I'm still hoping the flash tracker or some similar product will be out soon that will be much more like a D8 for 24 bits, at least as far as my needs go.

I thought he got it to work at 24/96 with the external HD ? I could be wrong though ...

Regardless I am with ya on the hope something comes out ala the D8, only time will tell ...

[wbrisette]

Is the Sound Devices 722/744 really anything more than a very well packaged Linux computer with a very good audio section and LCD?

Based on what I can tell about the unit, the "OS" is written in assembly.

I think his analysis of the 722/744 is an over simplification too.

Wayne

[Ray76]

<GRACE FLUFF ON>... always works....</GRACE FLUFF OFF>

From the 316 to the V2 to the V3, Mike Grace and his crew put us on the reliable bleeding edge.

It was always my understanding about the FireWire mod that it was more of a licencing issue than it was a technological resources problem? 


Back to the Maudio recorder, why couldn't we (ts.com) as a group try to put a compact list of features that we'd like at a realistic price point and see if one of these vendors (Maudio, SD, etc.) could produce it? 

Tried that bud. Noone bit. ASked here, for input, actually, then took that list to a sound engineer bud, and we sent it to some companies after he complied in tech speak. Still haint heard back.

Ray

[Craig T]

I went through about 2 years of headaches with the PDAudio rig, but now it is rock solid at 24/96 writing to an external HD containing a 7200 rpm 40GB drive.  I never tried recording to CF or SD media, but it was unreliable even at 24/48 writing to a 5GB pcmcia drive.  You should also know I'm using an "ancient" iPaq 3835 (<$100 on ebay now) - the newer ones have more powerful processors and that could make a difference with recording performance.

Craig T runs this with an external hard drive at 24 bit and has no problems as far as I know ...

Maybe Craig will chime in with his experiences.  But from what I remember, he is now able to run 24/48 reliably, but can't do 24/96 reliably.  And from what he said, this took a lot of testing and configuring and time and new recording s/w, etc, etc, to get to work.  Maybe the deal is that now the PDAudio works like a charm right out of the box and it was only the initial releases and initial recording s/w that had problems.  But whatever, I've long ago soured on the PDAudio and to me it just is not a D8 replacement, it's laptop recording on a smaller scale.  I'm still hoping the flash tracker or some similar product will be out soon that will be much more like a D8 for 24 bits, at least as far as my needs go.

[Todd R]

Thanks for your inputs on this, Craig.  Good to know it can reliably do 24/96 now.  Still, I have no confidence this is the type of set up for dinosaurs like me who just want to plug in a cable and press record.  Probably a great option for people who understand all the workings of the OS and whatnot, or for those who want to learn.  But I'd guess that for people like me who don't have the knowledge, patience, or stamina to get a soundcard working right, it is probably isn't the best bet to go with one of the PDAudio dealies.

[udovdh]

Besides reliable 24/96 and some metering we need bit perfect WAV splits at 2GB or less. Also a pre-roll buffer would be nice.
Did I mention a remote? (like the Sony D-x/xxx decks had)
Will it have one input with the 5V? Or two?
Details are welcome since M-Audio support doesn't know nothing.

[John Kelly]

Besides reliable 24/96 and some metering we need bit perfect WAV splits at 2GB or less

Or recording in a format that supports files larger than 2gb.  Wav64 or SDII extended would be great.