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Re: The AKG Active Project - 2
« Reply #15 on: March 10, 2007, 01:15:36 AM »
Ok help me understand the objective of removing the mic capsule from the body of the mic. Why do you guys want to do this so badly? I can think of a few reasons 1-sound the mic body will effect the sound of the mic. 2- Mic techniques that can be employed if the mics were smaller.. Am I missing anything else? if so please tell me what.

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Re: The AKG Active Project - 2
« Reply #16 on: March 10, 2007, 02:12:47 AM »
Ok help me understand the objective of removing the mic capsule from the body of the mic. Why do you guys want to do this so badly? I can think of a few reasons 1-sound the mic body will effect the sound of the mic. 2- Mic techniques that can be employed if the mics were smaller.. Am I missing anything else? if so please tell me what.



#3 is save money.  Caps only are something like $400/pair, mics with bodies are something like $1200 a pair.  I bought just the caps, optimistic (?) that I could get something running...

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Re: The AKG Active Project - 2
« Reply #17 on: March 10, 2007, 03:47:15 AM »
Ok help me understand the objective of removing the mic capsule from the body of the mic. Why do you guys want to do this so badly? I can think of a few reasons 1-sound the mic body will effect the sound of the mic. 2- Mic techniques that can be employed if the mics were smaller.. Am I missing anything else? if so please tell me what.


usually is to get mics smaller  so they would be mot seen ( in film business as i work and use schoepses with colet )


or could be placed in places where the long body cant sit at all  like on the boom when you work with very low ceilings , then you place the capsule only inside small suspention and get that extra 10 cm you dont have .

never thought about running directly to preamp with 60 v  but of course it is a good point for saving money .
just a tought,  did someone tried to take apart the swivel joints and make these as connectors ?
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Re: The AKG Active Project - 2
« Reply #18 on: March 10, 2007, 08:42:59 AM »
Ok help me understand the objective of removing the mic capsule from the body of the mic. Why do you guys want to do this so badly? I can think of a few reasons 1-sound the mic body will effect the sound of the mic. 2- Mic techniques that can be employed if the mics were smaller.. Am I missing anything else? if so please tell me what.



#3 is save money.  Caps only are something like $400/pair, mics with bodies are something like $1200 a pair.  I bought just the caps, optimistic (?) that I could get something running...

  Richard


I see there are a few preamps out there made by ACO pacific that are pretty cheap that will put out 60 volts polarization voltage they might be able to work with these caps. Do you have an AKG schematic of this mic body?
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Re: The AKG Active Project - 2
« Reply #19 on: March 10, 2007, 10:44:08 AM »
Ok help me understand the objective of removing the mic capsule from the body of the mic. Why do you guys want to do this so badly? I can think of a few reasons 1-sound the mic body will effect the sound of the mic. 2- Mic techniques that can be employed if the mics were smaller.. Am I missing anything else? if so please tell me what.



#3 is save money.  Caps only are something like $400/pair, mics with bodies are something like $1200 a pair.  I bought just the caps, optimistic (?) that I could get something running...

  Richard


I see there are a few preamps out there made by ACO pacific that are pretty cheap that will put out 60 volts polarization voltage they might be able to work with these caps. Do you have an AKG schematic of this mic body?


Go to AKG tech support.  They have all service documentation online.  Look for C480 and C451.

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Re: The AKG Active Project - 2
« Reply #20 on: March 10, 2007, 11:37:52 AM »
I for one, want to keep the bodies in the equation. 
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Re: The AKG Active Project - 2
« Reply #21 on: March 10, 2007, 11:59:01 AM »
sorry to sound stupid but whats QFT mean?
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Re: The AKG Active Project - 2
« Reply #22 on: March 10, 2007, 12:02:35 PM »
it would save lots of room and weight on large mic trees to only have a small bar mount and capsules. that is why i want em, and low visibility. at moe in mobile dre and myself ran two sets of full body akg's (with full metal SSm mounts) and one set of LD adk's. if we had actives the weight would have been more manageable.

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Re: The AKG Active Project - 2
« Reply #23 on: March 10, 2007, 12:03:52 PM »
sorry to sound stupid but whats QFT mean?
I believe it's
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Re: The AKG Active Project - 2
« Reply #24 on: March 10, 2007, 01:24:59 PM »
sorry to sound stupid but whats QFT mean?
I believe it's
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Re: The AKG Active Project - 2
« Reply #25 on: March 10, 2007, 01:43:02 PM »
thanks for the qft info guys
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Re: The AKG Active Project - 2
« Reply #26 on: March 10, 2007, 10:41:21 PM »
Ok help me understand the objective of removing the mic capsule from the body of the mic. Why do you guys want to do this so badly? I can think of a few reasons 1-sound the mic body will effect the sound of the mic. 2- Mic techniques that can be employed if the mics were smaller.. Am I missing anything else? if so please tell me what.

some people might want to see it a reality for stealthing  :-*
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Re: The AKG Active Project - 2
« Reply #27 on: March 12, 2007, 10:08:27 AM »
did someone tried to take apart the swivel joints and make these as connectors ?

I think this would be the easiest solution, but I can't figure out how the swivel comes apart and I don't want to rip up my pair unless I know I can get it re-assembled in case it doesn't work out.
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Re: The AKG Active Project - 2
« Reply #28 on: March 12, 2007, 10:23:14 AM »
did someone tried to take apart the swivel joints and make these as connectors ?

I think this would be the easiest solution, but I can't figure out how the swivel comes apart and I don't want to rip up my pair unless I know I can get it re-assembled in case it doesn't work out.


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Re: The AKG Active Project - 2
« Reply #29 on: March 12, 2007, 11:25:29 AM »
Ok help me understand the objective of removing the mic capsule from the body of the mic. Why do you guys want to do this so badly? I can think of a few reasons 1-sound the mic body will effect the sound of the mic. 2- Mic techniques that can be employed if the mics were smaller.. Am I missing anything else? if so please tell me what.



size of rig and ease of set up and break down; when I am taping with my 480s next to a taper using caps and active cables I am always envious, since their rig is so small and can be assembled in just a minute or two; I am a true fan of the AKG in your face sound, but I'd love to tape without the bodies, and I'm not the only 460/480 taper who feels that way, not by a long shot

 

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