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Re: Edirol R-09HR - Part FOUR
« Reply #150 on: August 15, 2009, 05:26:03 PM »
Mako, Thanks so much!
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Re: Edirol R-09HR - Part FOUR
« Reply #151 on: August 15, 2009, 05:28:07 PM »
also, what number should I shoot for when I'm looking at levels?  Just under clipping?  Or should I hold back a bit.  Thanks, recording for my first time w/this tonight.

If recording in 24 bit, I'd try to run levels bvetween -12 & -6.  You can add more in post.

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Re: Edirol R-09HR - Part FOUR
« Reply #152 on: August 15, 2009, 08:53:15 PM »
ok thanks.  Now, what about what Hz to run at?
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Re: Edirol R-09HR - Part FOUR
« Reply #153 on: August 16, 2009, 01:56:06 AM »
Agree with peaks between -12 and -6dB.  For sampling rate, I have always used 44.1khz since I can't tell the difference between that and 96khz, and that way it is CD compatible (after you dither to 16bit as well).

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Re: Edirol R-09HR - Part FOUR
« Reply #154 on: August 16, 2009, 03:18:31 AM »
Thanks. I ran at 96 just to be safe. I can cut it down later. I think I t was 2gb an hour because that's about where it split.
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Re: Edirol R-09HR - Part FOUR
« Reply #155 on: August 16, 2009, 11:27:46 AM »
Thanks. I ran at 96 just to be safe. I can cut it down later. I think I t was 2gb an hour because that's about where it split.
2 GB per hour is correct for 24/96.
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Re: Edirol R-09HR - Part FOUR
« Reply #156 on: August 16, 2009, 11:58:14 AM »
Trying to join them (3 files) in Audacity.  But for the life of me I can't find a command to append tracks.  Just open a bunch at once.
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Re: Edirol R-09HR - Part FOUR
« Reply #157 on: August 17, 2009, 10:55:51 AM »
Trying to join them (3 files) in Audacity.  But for the life of me I can't find a command to append tracks.  Just open a bunch at once.

So you have three files you're trying to join together in Audacity?
I think you may not be able to do that but with this program:
http://www.hitsquad.com/smm/programs/Addawav/
you will be able to do that and later open it up in audacity.

Maybe you can in Audacity but that addawav is a handy program.
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Re: Edirol R-09HR - Part FOUR
« Reply #158 on: August 17, 2009, 12:07:17 PM »
thanks!  I just copy/pasted each track to the end of previous one and then exported.  But I will try that as well.
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Re: Edirol R-09HR - Part FOUR
« Reply #159 on: August 26, 2009, 04:35:48 AM »
I'm gonna get my Edirol R09-HR from the post office in three hours from now and I was wondering how the mic-in perfoms to heavy-metal type shows.

I mean: Will the mic-in supply the necessary power to a pair of DPA4061 through the mic-in jack? Just wondering if anyone has had experiences in the past...
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Re: Edirol R-09HR - Part FOUR
« Reply #160 on: August 26, 2009, 08:20:20 AM »
Plug-in power is in the neighborhood of 3V and the 4061s require between 5 and 50V*.  Probably a good idea to use a battery box or pre-amp...

*That's what DPA lists on the spec sheet. "Min. 5 V - max 50 V through DPA adapter"  (the adapter is DPA DAD6001)
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Re: Edirol R-09HR - Part FOUR
« Reply #161 on: August 26, 2009, 08:22:33 AM »
Plug-in power is in the neighborhood of 3V and the 4061s require between 5 and 50V*.  Probably a good idea to use put a battery box or pre-amp...

*That's what DPA lists on the spec sheet.

I suspected that.. Then I'll go with a battery box straight ahead through the line-in.
Thanks anyway
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Re: Edirol R-09HR - Part FOUR
« Reply #162 on: August 26, 2009, 09:57:21 AM »
Plug-in power is in the neighborhood of 3V and the 4061s require between 5 and 50V*.  Probably a good idea to use put a battery box or pre-amp...

*That's what DPA lists on the spec sheet.

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Almost all DPA miniature mics require 5-9v power.  The only exception is a lower voltage version which they label 'low-DC'.  I forget the model number, maybe 4063?  It trades a small bit of performance for the ability to run at just 3v.  That version might work fine powered by the Edirol alone, but is uncommon around here.  DO NOT use much more than 9v unless you are using one of the numerous DPA adapters which step down higher voltages to the 9v range.  The actual wording on the spec sheet says something like "Microphone powering- 5 to 50V with adapter", which is a bit confusing.  Direct phantom power will likely fry the mic.
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Re: Edirol R-09HR - Part FOUR
« Reply #163 on: August 26, 2009, 10:15:22 AM »
You're right; I should have mentioned that...Original post amended to quote DPA (and I added the part number for the adapter)...

Also, you are correct about the low voltage model: 4063.  They say the same thing about powering, but drop the minimum voltage necessary to 3V...

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Re: Edirol R-09HR - Part FOUR
« Reply #164 on: August 27, 2009, 03:50:19 PM »
Is anyone out there using this setup:

CA-11 (omni or card) --> CA-9100 --> R-09HR

I was using Coresound stealthy cardiods --> Coresound BB --> R-09HR and have made the switch to Church gear.  I am still rather new to recording, so I'm a little lost on what would be good baseline settings for the pre and R-09HR.

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