Topic: Edirol R-09HR - Part FOUR

[Brian E.]

I'll have my 9100 soon (hopefully).  right now just using a batt box from SP.

I usually just set my levels during the opening band.  If you're taping the opening band, just record and set them during the first song.  I try to keep mine around -6 on the 09HR if I can, just adjust the input level.

[Belexes]

I keep my pre on +20 (cranked all the way) and 40 on the HR.  Dial down on the 9100 if it's a very loud concert and watch the clip light to make certain you are not clipping at the pre stage.

[guitard]

I keep my pre on +20 (cranked all the way) and 40 on the HR.  Dial down on the 9100 if it's a very loud concert and watch the clip light to make certain you are not clipping at the pre stage.

**WARNING** potentially stupid question forthcoming~~~

The clip light on the 9100 or the HR?

[su6oxone]

The clip light on the 9100 or the HR?

Sounds like he's referring to the 9100's clip light.  On the HR you can just check the levels, but on the pre you want to make sure you're not overloading at that stage/level as well.

[rastasean]

The clip light on the 9100 or the HR?

Sounds like he's referring to the 9100's clip light.  On the HR you can just check the levels, but on the pre you want to make sure you're not overloading at that stage/level as well.

I agree, the light on the 9100.
Good question, though. The hr does have a clip light but in order to make use of it, make sure you have your backlight set greater than a few seconds or else your only indication of peaking will be the bars going into the far right small boxes

[Ziggz]

I've just taken delivery of a nice shiny HR, courtesy of the recent SoundPros special! Looks as easy to operate as the R-09. I like the battery compartment on the back instead of that tricky door on the R-09. Don't really like the Hold button's location, but not a deal breaker. Using a totally unscientific method, would level 60 on the HR = approx level 20 on the R-09?

[udovdh]

48 <-> 20?

[Belexes]

Unity on the HR is said to be 40 - 45.

[guitard]

I keep my pre on +20 (cranked all the way) and 40 on the HR.  Dial down on the 9100 if it's a very loud concert and watch the clip light to make certain you are not clipping at the pre stage.

Chris Church always says it's better to control the overall volume using analog as opposed to digital control.  In other words, use the CA-9100 (analog) vs the Edirol (digital).  However, you are essentially recommending the opposite.  Just curious - have you tried Chris' method?

[Gutbucket]

Both are analog gain stages.  The Edirol just has a digital interface adjusting that analog gain, but the signal is still analog at that point.

[69mako]

I keep my HR at 38 and add the rest of the gain with the 9100.  I'd rather add more gain in post than run it too hot at a show.  With 24 bit, you don't need to run at near clipping levels.  At collective soul I run the 9100 at the 1-2 o'clock position with great results.

Mako

[guitard]

I keep my HR at 38 and add the rest of the gain with the 9100.  I'd rather add more gain in post than run it too hot at a show.  With 24 bit, you don't need to run at near clipping levels.  At collective soul I run the 9100 at the 1-2 o'clock position with great results.

Mako

Other than having the input at 38, what is your basic setup (various switches) for the HR?

You keep it at 38 for a rock show, how would you change if it were something not as loud - an acoustic show for example?

Edit to add:  and what about the bass roll-off switch in the CA-9100?

[lordbelial]

I keep my HR at 38 and add the rest of the gain with the 9100.  I'd rather add more gain in post than run it too hot at a show.  With 24 bit, you don't need to run at near clipping levels.  At collective soul I run the 9100 at the 1-2 o'clock position with great results.

Mako

Other than having the input at 38, what is your basic setup (various switches) for the HR?

I have the same question too. Just got my R09-HR a couple days ago and I don't have a clue which is the right basic setup for the switches on the rear...

[Brian E.]

I don't use any of the roll-offs.  I feel like the input level is the biggest thing.  As long as you're not clipping, you can roll off frequencies later - but you can't get them back as easily if they're not there.

[Belexes]

switches in the back:

I have my set to all left, then a small piece of gaff tape over them.