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Re: Schoeps mk41? Doubting to take the plunge...
« Reply #75 on: July 13, 2020, 04:22:40 PM »
Like DaSpy, I have both the Baby and the Platinum.  I use the Platinum 90% of the time, because I know how to get it through metal detectors. 

The Baby Box is really just a battery box supplying the voltage to run the Schoeps.  Initially, I disliked it due to the sound, but quite frankly in some venues, metal detectors, wands, empty pockets and pat downs (yep, there are few really aggressive venues), it came it useful.  I got over the sound, and developed a plug in setting to boost the frequencies that needed, actually a curve of sorts, and it its hard to tell the difference these days.  Like DaSpy, I use "Mike In"  on my recorder, not "Line In."  You'll need a special set of cords for the Baby Box, the two are not interchangable with the NBox. 

I'll always take both to every show, and decide after checking out the security line which preamp to use.  Like I said, the Platinum is still my go-to preamp. 

But if you are unskilled or paranoid about security checks, then I suggest the Baby NBox. 
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Re: Schoeps mk41? Doubting to take the plunge...
« Reply #76 on: July 13, 2020, 05:54:30 PM »
Like DaSpy, I have both the Baby and the Platinum.  I use the Platinum 90% of the time, because I know how to get it through metal detectors.

I have been trying to decide which to get, and what you wrote here seals the deal for me.  I have never had a problem getting anything through metal detectors.  Thanks!
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Re: Schoeps mk41? Doubting to take the plunge...
« Reply #77 on: July 13, 2020, 07:31:10 PM »
I "think" that there might be an ABS plastic box option for the Platinum.  Not sure on that..  but you should ask if needed.
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Re: Schoeps mk41? Doubting to take the plunge...
« Reply #78 on: July 13, 2020, 07:48:49 PM »
I "think" that there might be an ABS plastic box option for the Platinum.  Not sure on that..  but you should ask if needed.

There most definitely is.
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Re: Schoeps mk41? Doubting to take the plunge...
« Reply #79 on: July 13, 2020, 08:40:37 PM »
Like DaSpy, I have both the Baby and the Platinum. I use the Platinum 90% of the time, because I know how to get it through metal detectors. 

The Baby Box is really just a battery box supplying the voltage to run the Schoeps.  Initially, I disliked it due to the sound, but quite frankly in some venues, metal detectors, wands, empty pockets and pat downs (yep, there are few really aggressive venues), it came it useful.  I got over the sound, and developed a plug in setting to boost the frequencies that needed, actually a curve of sorts, and it its hard to tell the difference these days.  Like DaSpy, I use "Mike In"  on my recorder, not "Line In."  You'll need a special set of cords for the Baby Box, the two are not interchangable with the NBox. 

I'll always take both to every show, and decide after checking out the security line which preamp to use.  Like I said, the Platinum is still my go-to preamp. 

But if you are unskilled or paranoid about security checks, then I suggest the Baby NBox.

If you are getting the Platinum  through Madison Square Garden please PM me your secrets. :help:

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Re: Schoeps mk41? Doubting to take the plunge...
« Reply #80 on: July 14, 2020, 07:12:47 AM »
Same here. I'd like a pm with your tricks :)
mics: schoeps mk41 (matched) | nakamichi cm-300 (JB mod/cp1/cp2/cp3) | nakamichi cm-50 | primo em4052pmi4's | sp-cmc-4u/at-853 4.7k mod (shotguns/h/c/sc/) | ca-11 c/o
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Re: Schoeps mk41? Doubting to take the plunge...
« Reply #81 on: July 14, 2020, 02:34:43 PM »
With regard to Nbox Platinum's option of a plastic or metal case ... conventional wisdom suggests a metal box would be sturdier ... but a plastic box would be easier for >:D.  But if you've got 4x 9v batteries in a plastic box ... does it really make a difference?
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Re: Schoeps mk41? Doubting to take the plunge...
« Reply #82 on: July 14, 2020, 02:51:00 PM »
I'll defer to actual users to give you a more definitive answer, however I presume it depends on which batteries are used and specifically if they have a metal case (std alkaline) or a plastic case (Powerex NiMH, etc).
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Re: Schoeps mk41? Doubting to take the plunge...
« Reply #83 on: July 14, 2020, 02:52:39 PM »
I'll defer to actual users to give you a more definitive answer, however I presume it depends on which batteries are used and specifically if they have a metal case (std alkaline) or a plastic case (Powerex NiMH, etc).

I've never heard of batteries with plastic cases.  Very interesting ...
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Re: Schoeps mk41? Doubting to take the plunge...
« Reply #84 on: July 14, 2020, 03:10:46 PM »
NiMH rechargables are generally a good option, but check what other Nbox users recommend for specific battery recommendations as the voltages, mAh ratings, and discharge curves are a different than standard "9V's".  Most are closer to either 8V or 10V and some require a specific charger.  If going with NiMH I recommend a low self discharge version as they hold a charge much longer (similar charge holding to alkalines) making them far more predictable both in the short run and over time as they age.   A set should last ~3 years or so.
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Re: Schoeps mk41? Doubting to take the plunge...
« Reply #85 on: July 14, 2020, 05:02:05 PM »
I think that these were the "best" rechargeable 9V a few years ago..  not sure if there is a better option these days??.

The white 9.6V version.

https://mahaenergy.com/powerex-9-6v-230mah-1-pack/

I know some Nbox users use rechargeables...  but I know that alkalines are more trustworthy. 

Hopefully current Nbox users will chime in.


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Re: Schoeps mk41? Doubting to take the plunge...
« Reply #86 on: July 14, 2020, 05:27:14 PM »
The white Powerex 9.6v rechargeable batteries are not the low self discharge version. They work just fine however for the same price you can get these....

https://www.thomasdistributing.com/Maha-Precharged-9V-96V-230-mAh-Low-Discharge-NIMH-Rechargeable-Battery_p_2455.html

Using Duracell coppertop 9V will power your Nbox for a bit longer than the rechargeables (either version) but the cost of buying a new Duracells 4-pack every other show will quickly add up. I always looked at it like buying an additional ticket to a show plus throwing away hundreds of dead coppertops is just such a waste. The rechargeables will easily save you $1k over the life of the battery. The key is to get the correct charger for the batteries and make sure you are buying the 9.6V version and not the 9V rechargeable battery. Using a charger that can identify when the battery is going to crap out will make using rechargeable batteries foolproof. I have not had any issues with a rechargeable not performing in the field.
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Re: Schoeps mk41? Doubting to take the plunge...
« Reply #87 on: July 14, 2020, 05:57:29 PM »
Any recommendations for windscreens and dead rats to stealth the MK41's in a hat?
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Re: Schoeps mk41? Doubting to take the plunge...
« Reply #88 on: July 14, 2020, 06:04:38 PM »
I think that these were the "best" rechargeable 9V a few years ago..  not sure if there is a better option these days??.

The white 9.6V version.

https://mahaenergy.com/powerex-9-6v-230mah-1-pack/

I know some Nbox users use rechargeables...  but I know that alkalines are more trustworthy. 

Hopefully current Nbox users will chime in.

I use Duracell Pro Cells.  I know I should use rechargeables but I feel safer using these.

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Re: Schoeps mk41? Doubting to take the plunge...
« Reply #89 on: July 14, 2020, 06:09:45 PM »
buying a new Duracells 4-pack every other show will quickly add up.

Two shows is typically around 5-6 hours? I thought I read you could get a lot more recording time than that with a fresh set of batteries.
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