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Schoeps mk41? Doubting to take the plunge...
« on: June 27, 2020, 03:51:56 PM »
Hi,
Im thinking about going the baby nbox > nbobs > mk41 route. If I do so I'll sell my other mics (see signature). What is your advice? Will it be worth it? I really like the subcards and cp3's.
mics: schoeps mk41 (matched) | nakamichi cm-300 (JB mod/cp1/cp2/cp3) | nakamichi cm-50 | primo em4052pmi4's | sp-cmc-4u/at-853 4.7k mod (shotguns/h/c/sc/) | ca-11 c/o
power: ca-ubb | ca-9200 | nbob actives > baby nbox 
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Re: Schoeps mk41? Doubting to take the plunge...
« Reply #1 on: June 27, 2020, 03:59:33 PM »
Only you can answer whether it's worth it. Will the recordings you make with the new rig make you happy enough to not have the old rig?
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Re: Schoeps mk41? Doubting to take the plunge...
« Reply #2 on: June 27, 2020, 05:57:34 PM »
gefell m21's > nbob!!
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Re: Schoeps mk41? Doubting to take the plunge...
« Reply #3 on: June 27, 2020, 06:24:57 PM »
if youre looking for a new pair of MK41s i can get you a discount on a matched pair (official US w/ 10 year warranty), PM me
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Re: Schoeps mk41? Doubting to take the plunge...
« Reply #4 on: June 27, 2020, 08:42:38 PM »
Only you can answer whether it's worth it. Will the recordings you make with the new rig make you happy enough to not have the old rig?

I don't know. Maybe someone that has (had) at 853 subcards and or nak cm300 cp3's can asnwer that question.
I've always wanted mk41's and now I'm in the position to buy them...
mics: schoeps mk41 (matched) | nakamichi cm-300 (JB mod/cp1/cp2/cp3) | nakamichi cm-50 | primo em4052pmi4's | sp-cmc-4u/at-853 4.7k mod (shotguns/h/c/sc/) | ca-11 c/o
power: ca-ubb | ca-9200 | nbob actives > baby nbox 
recorder: roland r-05 
video: panasonic zs100 | panasonic hdc-sd600 | sony hx9v | sony hx50v

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Re: Schoeps mk41? Doubting to take the plunge...
« Reply #5 on: June 27, 2020, 08:47:27 PM »
if youre looking for a new pair of MK41s i can get you a discount on a matched pair (official US w/ 10 year warranty), PM me

Thanks. Appreciated. I live in Europe.
mics: schoeps mk41 (matched) | nakamichi cm-300 (JB mod/cp1/cp2/cp3) | nakamichi cm-50 | primo em4052pmi4's | sp-cmc-4u/at-853 4.7k mod (shotguns/h/c/sc/) | ca-11 c/o
power: ca-ubb | ca-9200 | nbob actives > baby nbox 
recorder: roland r-05 
video: panasonic zs100 | panasonic hdc-sd600 | sony hx9v | sony hx50v

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Re: Schoeps mk41? Doubting to take the plunge...
« Reply #6 on: June 27, 2020, 08:51:42 PM »
Only you can answer whether it's worth it. Will the recordings you make with the new rig make you happy enough to not have the old rig?

I don't know. Maybe someone that has (had) at 853 subcards and or nak cm300 cp3's can asnwer that question.
I've always wanted mk41's and now I'm in the position to buy them...

One thing I know is that if you sell those AT853 subcard caps it's very unlikely you could replace them later if you find yourself missing them.
Mics: AT4050ST | AT4031 | AT853 (C/SC) | Line Audio CM3 | Sennheiser e614 | Sennheiser MKE2 | DPA 4061 | CA-14 omni Pres: CA9200 | DPA d:vice Decks: Zoom F8 | Roland R-05

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Re: Schoeps mk41? Doubting to take the plunge...
« Reply #7 on: June 27, 2020, 11:06:14 PM »
You're right. I keep them I think. Great sounding caps.
mics: schoeps mk41 (matched) | nakamichi cm-300 (JB mod/cp1/cp2/cp3) | nakamichi cm-50 | primo em4052pmi4's | sp-cmc-4u/at-853 4.7k mod (shotguns/h/c/sc/) | ca-11 c/o
power: ca-ubb | ca-9200 | nbob actives > baby nbox 
recorder: roland r-05 
video: panasonic zs100 | panasonic hdc-sd600 | sony hx9v | sony hx50v

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Re: Schoeps mk41? Doubting to take the plunge...
« Reply #8 on: June 28, 2020, 12:23:55 AM »
Listen to some supercard/hyper recordings.  They are way more directional than wide/sub cards or omnis.
Make sure you like the directivity.  Tight pattern.
Super/hyper cards don't have the low end "boom" of wide cards or omnis.  Which might be a good thing or you might miss it.  Super/hypers will pick up much less ambient/chatter noise than wide cards or omni.

The 41's are truly are on the other end of the spectrum compared to wide/sub cards or omnis.  If you don't like the tight direction pattern of the 41.. Listen to MK4 (card), MK22 (open card), MK21 (wide card) recordings. 

It all kind of depends on where you usually set-up to record from.

41's are top notch.  Great in almost any situation once you get to know their strengths and weaknesses. 
They can make a bad sounding room sound great on a recording.  They can make a great sounding room sound great on a recording.

Get em..  don't look back..  make great tapes!

 
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Re: Schoeps mk41? Doubting to take the plunge...
« Reply #9 on: June 28, 2020, 02:14:05 AM »
If you got the dough you will be happy with the results.  I run that rig often and can provide samples.

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Re: Schoeps mk41? Doubting to take the plunge...
« Reply #10 on: June 29, 2020, 06:30:08 AM »
gefell m21's > nbob!!

After I get done with 7 days a week, 12 hours a day at work, the above quote is my plan.
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Re: Schoeps mk41? Doubting to take the plunge...
« Reply #11 on: June 29, 2020, 07:47:46 AM »
Hi,
Im thinking about going the baby nbox > nbobs > mk41 route. If I do so I'll sell my other mics (see signature). What is your advice? Will it be worth it? I really like the subcards and cp3's.
Buy what u like.   YOU have to listen to it!  EVERYONE should have different tastes.  Is it worth it?? Again, that's on u.  We all don't drive the same car, or have the speakers.  Its all a matter on taste and what YOU want to spend on things.
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Re: Schoeps mk41? Doubting to take the plunge...
« Reply #12 on: June 30, 2020, 09:41:22 PM »
I run that rig as well.  Sometimes. 

The Baby NBox is not a preamp, only a battery box, and if you A-B to a Platinum NBox, you will notice a lack of high ends for the Baby NBox.  However, that can be easily taken care of in post, and where stealthy gate searches might frighten you, the BabyNBox is a nice tool in the toolbox.  The MK41s are great for either distant recording or high crowd noise recording.  I would not use these in a small club or quiet venue, for example. 
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Re: Schoeps mk41? Doubting to take the plunge...
« Reply #13 on: June 30, 2020, 10:00:09 PM »
I concur with Scooter.  Having MK4's and MK41's covers most of my needs.  I would like a pair of MK21's or MK22's also but not sure I would use them enough to justify the dough.

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Re: Schoeps mk41? Doubting to take the plunge...
« Reply #14 on: July 01, 2020, 12:02:24 AM »
The MK41s are great for either distant recording or high crowd noise recording.  I would not use these in a small club or quiet venue, for example.

Why not??
The only times that I've heard issues with 41's have been when they were run on-stage/stage-lip and they didn't pick up the keys/synth/vocals that were all DI.  And in a smallish/medium sized room where reflections were picked up because they were mounted with too wide of an angle. But they can sound great when on-stage when DI's are not involved.  And in small rooms when you learn to avoid the reflections.

In some situations, other capsules might be more proper..  but IMO, 41's can be used most anywhere.   
Part of the learning curve with 41's is to figure out how they can be used best in various situations.
If a person is only going to have one pair of Schoeps, 41's are a great all-around capsule. 
« Last Edit: July 01, 2020, 12:04:15 AM by yug du nord »
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